Talk:1993-08-02-Concept of I AM

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Rob wrote: Monday, February 27, 2012 3:50 PM

In 1993-08-02-Concept of the I AM and as well in a handful of other lessons, I have noticed reference to a "Rochester group". However, there appears to be no lessons from this group. As I recall Bill Kelly had family in Rochester or nearby. Does anyone know if this was an early group that did not share their lessons?

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Ron Besser wrote: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:28 PM FYI

The Rochester group seems to have existed before (1992), during, and somewhat after Naperville, 1993. I see no mention of this group in 1994. Olondo was the group teacher. I have extracted several sessions] where the Rochester group is mentioned if you want to check them out for leads.

Ron


Daniel060693Fortitude ...know you know this are about to embark on a trip to the east to Rochester where I believe there is a teacher in residence I m wondering if there would ......hold complete confidence in your abilities to speak with others and to meet with the Rochester group I also hold in confidence that this trip will be very rewarding for you ...

Daniel062093Cooperation&Simplification ...my self doubts about it And I am a little concerned as I go to Rochester whether or not I really did hear from Olando whether those thoughts transmissions were accurate ......yourself You have been doing an exceptional job in your receiving As you travel to Rochester Olando will in fact be awaiting your coming And we ask that you take it ...

Daniel080293ConceptOf_I-AM ...wondered if you wanted to make any comments about the status of things with the Rochester group at this time I haven t heard anything since I met with them so ......that quot Daniel quot It is again good to have you back Your presence in Rochester has been one which has given much support and your visit was one that did ...

Welmek101492MyvisitWithMichael ...do not wish to comment Q Welmek I received a call from a friend in Rochester New York and they re very interested in the mission and he wanted to ask ......ask if it were possible that a teacher could be assigned to their group in Rochester A As long as this group is truly desirous of this as you know there ......will be shared with all of you Q Welmek I have a deaf son in Rochester Are there any teachers or are there any groups in that area that might use ...

Will050993-062793ImportOfTalkingWithPeople ...small acts of kindness Group laughter this is the same question Vincent asked Olondo the Rochester teacher while Vincent was in Naperville recently WILL I commend you Vincent for your constancy ...

Further information

Thank you Ron! I looked at these earlier, but have now made a reference to them in the discussion page of the lesson along with a cross reference to the May 9, 1993 session where Olondo is referenced as "the Rochester teacher" in 1993-05-09-Importance of Communicating With People--rdavis 04:08, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


Ron Besser also wrote: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:28 PM

I did a Google search for both the Rochester group and Olondo in an attempt to associate the two with no luck. Google returns your page in Daynal and my page in Tmarchives for either key word and nothing else.

A group arose in New York State in a place called Plessis. I asked for a mileage map between Rochester and Plessis to see if I could relate the two places to be close enough that the later group Plessis may have some of the same people in it as Rochester did. FYI here is the route map between the two places. As you can see the information is indeterminate - it could be or it may not be since it is nearly a three hour trip between them. The big body of water is Lake Ontario for those not familiar with the geography.

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I mention Plessis, New York which as a group never submitted their transcriptions for the public on TML, but they did transmit and they did produce several transcripts dated between late 2005 and early 2006. The group was divided in itself about releasing transcriptions and never did so although I received four or five of them before they disappeared (and they are not archived because of the group's wishes).

From an old reference I have listing groups and locations, there is a reference to an individual in the Plessis New York area with the name of Gary Stevenson <clearlke@gisco.net> I have no expectation that this email is any good any more.

Here is an extract from one their transcripts naming participants. It is the header. I do not know who they are and the transcripts names no one by their last name:

Teaching Mission

Group: Plessis, NY & Syracuse, NY

Transcript #3 12-18-05 - @ Noelle’s home in Syracuse, NY

Teachers: Anonymous, Lantarnek Melchizedek, Layonta [First introduction as group teacher.]

Students: Gary, Julie, Jean, Noelle, Flash, Pat, Jeff

As I said, these activities may not have anything to do with Rochester, but I would bet that at least one of the individuals named above knew or still knows some history of the Rochester group. I also believe that Warren Smith knows the connections, if they exist, between Rochester, Syracuse, and Plessis. They are all located in north or western New York State.

Ron