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== Session== | == Session== | ||
===Opening=== | ===Opening=== | ||
| − | Prior to the session Mark asked if he could get a preview of what the discussion would be about. Machiventa said heart space. | + | Prior to the session Mark asked if he could get a preview of what the [[discussion]] would be about. Machiventa said [[heart]] [[space]]. |
| − | Machiventa: Within each human being there is a given amount of space for storage of material. If one is engaged in storage of material which is not fruitful to their spirit in their heart space they "fill up their hard drive with unproductive material" which needs to be "deleted" or inventory what one is storing...such as greed...fear...anger...hatred..doubt...things which exclude love...then one must inventory their heart space. | + | Machiventa: Within each [[human being]] there is a given amount of [[space]] for storage of material. If one is engaged in storage of material which is not fruitful to their [[spirit]] in their heart space they "fill up their hard drive with unproductive material" which needs to be "deleted" or [[inventory]] what one is storing...such as [[greed]]...[[fear]]...[[anger]]...[[hatred]]..[[doubt]]...things which exclude [[love]]...then one must inventory their heart space. |
| − | (There was a brief discussion before the transmission which concerned the appreciation of conference calls as there were no transmitters in the Seattle area. The discussion concerned the possibility of an introductory TR training course at the upcoming conferences in which it was suggested by Mark that taking known TR'S out of the picture temporarily so as not to fall back on the old standbys and foster experimenting with some TR training. To break down the barrier that there is a mold, and that somehow they do not fit it.) | + | (There was a brief discussion before the transmission which concerned the [[appreciation]] of conference calls as there were no [[transmitters]] in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle,_Washington Seattle] area. The discussion concerned the possibility of an introductory TR [[training]] course at the upcoming conferences in which it was suggested by Mark that taking known TR'S out of the picture temporarily so as not to fall back on the old standbys and foster [[experimenting]] with some TR training. To break down the [[barrier]] that there is a mold, and that somehow they do not fit it.) |
===Dialogue=== | ===Dialogue=== | ||
| − | Machiventa: Don't think that any act that you do is insignificant after all remember when I was on your planet I was dealing with mortals such as yourselves....you still have the tales of those in your records. so don't think that your cooperation here is any less significant to your planets' outcome. | + | Machiventa: Don't think that any [[act]] that you do is insignificant after all remember when I was on [[your planet]] I was dealing with [[mortals]] such as yourselves....you still have the [[tales]] of those in your records. so don't think that your [[cooperation]] here is any less significant to your planets' outcome. |
Question: What am I supposed to be doing? or what is my contribution . ..kind of thing. | Question: What am I supposed to be doing? or what is my contribution . ..kind of thing. | ||
| − | Machiventa: Do not make the mistake of shorting or measuring yourself by human standards. Whenever you do this you are bound to fall short. There will always be those who you think do better than you, there will always be those who you think not as good as you. By trying to measure yourself by some human standard you are inevitably shorting yourself. You must learn to measure yourself in spiritual standards as we measure you. Your spiritual growth and your subsequent contribution, as a result of your spiritual growth, are the benchmarks and standards by which the universe measures you. Trying to measure yourself by purely physical standards is like trying to measure the TRANSIENT SHADOWS of your spiritual accomplishments. It can't properly be done. All of you at this conference call right now are not getting the point that you are all advancing in your spiritual growth and that is all that is asked of you as a human being. As a result of your spiritual growth you will encounter the urge to be of service as a natural result of that growth. I see you growing and it is obvious to the universe at large , but it is not obvious to you right now. Follow your heart. | + | Machiventa: Do not make the mistake of shorting or measuring yourself by [[human]] [[standards]]. Whenever you do this you are bound to fall short. There will always be those who you think do better than you, there will always be those who you think not as [[good]] as you. By trying to measure yourself by some human standard you are [[inevitably]] shorting yourself. You must learn to measure yourself in [[spiritual]] standards as we measure you. Your [[spiritual growth]] and your subsequent contribution, as a result of your spiritual growth, are the benchmarks and standards by which [[the universe]] measures you. Trying to measure yourself by purely physical standards is like trying to measure the TRANSIENT [[Shadow|SHADOWS]] of your spiritual accomplishments. It can't properly be done. All of you at this conference call right now are not getting the point that you are all advancing in your spiritual growth and that is all that is asked of you as a human being. As a result of your spiritual [[growth]] you will encounter the urge to be of [[service]] as a natural result of that growth. I see you growing and it is obvious to the universe at large , but it is not obvious to you right now. Follow your [[heart]]. |
| − | Question: Can you tell me something about leadership...is that too vague? | + | Question: Can you tell me something about [[leadership]]...is that too vague? |
Machiventa: Yes..we need more...what about leadership would you like to know? | Machiventa: Yes..we need more...what about leadership would you like to know? | ||
| − | Question: What is the relationship of leaders to people? | + | Question: What is the [[relationship]] of [[leaders]] to people? |
| − | Machiventa: I'm glad you asked that because there's a time for new leadership and the new leadership will be comprised of brave individuals who will be willing to be liaison between spiritual ideals and practical realities and the new leaders will be bold enough to come to our side for our perspective and then bring that perspective back to act as liaisons for spiritual ideals. These new leaders will boldly state that we need a new plan..a new direction...and these ideas will not necessarily originate in the human construct but will be brought in from the outside by brave individuals willing to stand up for these new ideals . ..there's true leadership....EX: Martin Luther King . ." I HAVE A DREAM"...DREAM SAYS THIS WAY...like...let the leaders say what they may but I say go this way..which is different. Not trying to fight the enemy with his weapons...{as in the Buckminster Fuller saying that if you want to change a paradigm..don't fight it, but create a new one which makes the old one obsolete.} Have to be willing to lead without any short term success. It might even be generations before it becomes a reality. | + | Machiventa: I'm glad you asked that because there's a time for new [[leadership]] and the new leadership will be comprised of [[brave]] individuals who will be willing to be [[liaison]] between [[spiritual]] [[ideals]] and [[practical]] realities and the new leaders will be [[bold]] enough to come to our side for our [[perspective]] and then bring that perspective back to act as liaisons for spiritual ideals. These new leaders will boldly state that we need a new plan..a new [[direction]]...and these ideas will not necessarily originate in the human construct but will be brought in from the outside by brave individuals willing to stand up for these new [[ideals]] . ..there's true [[leadership]]....EX: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr. Martin Luther King] . ." I HAVE A DREAM"...DREAM SAYS THIS WAY...like...let the leaders say what they may but I say go this way..which is [[different]]. Not trying to fight the [[enemy]] with his weapons...{as in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller Buckminster Fuller] saying that if you want to change a [[paradigm]]..don't fight it, but create a new one which makes the old one obsolete.} Have to be willing to lead without any short term success. It might even be [[generations]] before it [[becomes]] a [[reality]]. |
| − | + | ===Note=== | |
| − | These are not exact . ..obviously...but seem to capture the flavor of the discussion as we had it. Please add or compliment this as you see fit....Tom | + | These are not exact . ..obviously...but seem to capture the flavor of the [[discussion]] as we had it. Please add or compliment this as you see fit....Tom |
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[[Category: Unknown]] | [[Category: Unknown]] | ||
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[[Category: 2004]] | [[Category: 2004]] | ||
Revision as of 23:26, 25 January 2014
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Topic: Heart Space
Group: Lightline TeaM
Facilitators
Teacher: Machiventa
TR: Unknown
Session
Opening
Prior to the session Mark asked if he could get a preview of what the discussion would be about. Machiventa said heart space.
Machiventa: Within each human being there is a given amount of space for storage of material. If one is engaged in storage of material which is not fruitful to their spirit in their heart space they "fill up their hard drive with unproductive material" which needs to be "deleted" or inventory what one is storing...such as greed...fear...anger...hatred..doubt...things which exclude love...then one must inventory their heart space.
(There was a brief discussion before the transmission which concerned the appreciation of conference calls as there were no transmitters in the Seattle area. The discussion concerned the possibility of an introductory TR training course at the upcoming conferences in which it was suggested by Mark that taking known TR'S out of the picture temporarily so as not to fall back on the old standbys and foster experimenting with some TR training. To break down the barrier that there is a mold, and that somehow they do not fit it.)
Dialogue
Machiventa: Don't think that any act that you do is insignificant after all remember when I was on your planet I was dealing with mortals such as yourselves....you still have the tales of those in your records. so don't think that your cooperation here is any less significant to your planets' outcome.
Question: What am I supposed to be doing? or what is my contribution . ..kind of thing.
Machiventa: Do not make the mistake of shorting or measuring yourself by human standards. Whenever you do this you are bound to fall short. There will always be those who you think do better than you, there will always be those who you think not as good as you. By trying to measure yourself by some human standard you are inevitably shorting yourself. You must learn to measure yourself in spiritual standards as we measure you. Your spiritual growth and your subsequent contribution, as a result of your spiritual growth, are the benchmarks and standards by which the universe measures you. Trying to measure yourself by purely physical standards is like trying to measure the TRANSIENT SHADOWS of your spiritual accomplishments. It can't properly be done. All of you at this conference call right now are not getting the point that you are all advancing in your spiritual growth and that is all that is asked of you as a human being. As a result of your spiritual growth you will encounter the urge to be of service as a natural result of that growth. I see you growing and it is obvious to the universe at large , but it is not obvious to you right now. Follow your heart.
Question: Can you tell me something about leadership...is that too vague?
Machiventa: Yes..we need more...what about leadership would you like to know?
Question: What is the relationship of leaders to people?
Machiventa: I'm glad you asked that because there's a time for new leadership and the new leadership will be comprised of brave individuals who will be willing to be liaison between spiritual ideals and practical realities and the new leaders will be bold enough to come to our side for our perspective and then bring that perspective back to act as liaisons for spiritual ideals. These new leaders will boldly state that we need a new plan..a new direction...and these ideas will not necessarily originate in the human construct but will be brought in from the outside by brave individuals willing to stand up for these new ideals . ..there's true leadership....EX: Martin Luther King . ." I HAVE A DREAM"...DREAM SAYS THIS WAY...like...let the leaders say what they may but I say go this way..which is different. Not trying to fight the enemy with his weapons...{as in the Buckminster Fuller saying that if you want to change a paradigm..don't fight it, but create a new one which makes the old one obsolete.} Have to be willing to lead without any short term success. It might even be generations before it becomes a reality.
Note
These are not exact . ..obviously...but seem to capture the flavor of the discussion as we had it. Please add or compliment this as you see fit....Tom
